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Post by Bryan on Jan 10, 2016 15:39:42 GMT -5
I have a Gambit question:
Let's say if the first couple has a 10/20 because they drew an Ace. Second couple has an 8, get the question right and now has a hard 17. With the first couple having a 10/20, can the second couple still freeze on a hard 17?
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Post by palmer7 on Jan 11, 2016 8:13:04 GMT -5
Well, I would think the couple would have to declare their intent as to whether to keep it as a 10 or a 20. It would be widely assumed they'd play it as a 10 because it would give them the most options.
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Post by Bryan on Jan 11, 2016 8:25:51 GMT -5
You wouldn't believe the different answers I got on this. Some jerk kicked me out of a Facebook group because he thought I was trying to make a big deal out of it. Don't you think this is debatable?
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Post by palmer7 on Jan 11, 2016 11:11:43 GMT -5
Well, usually Wink would ask if the couple wanted to play or freeze. If they froze with an Ace/9, it was assumed they'd play it as a 20. If they played on, it was assumed they'd play it as a 10.
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Post by Bryan on Jan 11, 2016 13:51:22 GMT -5
That's what i figured too. Of course for some dumb reason they played on with a hard 20, their opponent couldn't freeze on 17.
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Post by dougmorrisontheair on Jan 12, 2016 21:23:51 GMT -5
My two cents, if I may chime in: Even though no couple's frozen, the team with the hard 17 would be trailing the team with the soft 20. Therefore, the team with 17 would be discouraged from freezing on such a hand. That's how I'd view it if I were hosting or producing "Gambit".
With the likely exception of a "daring"/"go for broke" move in a World Series of Blackjack or similar Blackjack tournament, or a need to rack up more game points in "Gambit's" sequel show, "Catch 21", I honestly can't think of any time any player would refuse to stand/freeze on a soft 20.
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Post by quardfarshore on Jan 17, 2016 0:46:29 GMT -5
Also keep in mind when a team froze, they were the "owners" of that score until it was beat or the trailing team missed a question.
So a team that froze on a soft 20, would be the "owners" of 20, meaning the only way to win the game at that point would be 21.
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Post by billmcdee on Jan 20, 2016 11:11:24 GMT -5
That's how I see it too. If the player with 17 froze, the other player with the Ace + 9 would be an instant winner since that would be scored as a 20.
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Post by palmer7 on Jan 20, 2016 12:45:02 GMT -5
That's how I see it too. If the player with 17 froze, the other player with the Ace + 9 would be an instant winner since that would be scored as a 20. Not necessarily. If the couple decided to play on with a "soft" 20, it would become a hard 10 because it'd be assumed they'd play on and try to get an Ace. |
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Post by jmdarrall on Mar 7, 2016 11:30:42 GMT -5
One thing that you forgot, and please correct me if I am wrong, was that the rules only allowed teams to freeze if THEY CORRECTLY ANSWERED A QUESTION. If that was the case, then Team One would have to answer the next question right, get another card (it would be safe to do so at this point, because they could play off the hard 10 OR the soft 20, meaning any and all cards would be good), and hope that next card is an Ace, 8, 9, or 10 for the win. As for automatically freezing, I don't think that would've been allowed, unless I didn't understand the aforementioned rules properly.
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Post by billmcdee on Mar 7, 2016 12:38:38 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure either on that Jon. I do know when I hosted Gambit PM, one of the rules I used was "You cannot freeze until/unless your receive another card, and that card puts you ahead of your opponent."
If Couple A had a 10/20 and elected to play on, which would seem unlikely to me, but assuming they did, I cannot recall if they had to answer a question in order to freeze on the 20, without taking another card or not.
My understanding was after a question was answered correctly, somebody had to get a card, either the couple answering the question would keep it, or they would pass it to their opponent.
The only time I can fathom a couple not freezing if they had an Ace + 9 hand is if their opponent already had an 11 showing. I really like this topic, although there does not seem to be a definitive answer. I wish we could consult Wink Martindale on this. I know he is on Facebook. I am not on it any longer, but perhaps someone who is who might have him as a favorite could maybe reach out to ask him. He may not recall since Gambit left the airwaves some time ago.
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